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Andrew posted an update
Check out this #chess game: wildsam21 vs jlu_019 – https://www.chess.com/live/game/118986606145
Just played this game , black played a ” king’s Indian ” type set up , it’s the type of position I need advice on please . Sure there are better ways to deal with it !!! Thank you 🙏
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wildsam21 (1246) vs jlu_019 (1274). wildsam21 won by resignation in 59 moves. Click to review the game, move by move.
James E and Edward S3 Comments-
I just looked through this game since I’ve also been playing the King’s Indian quite a bit recently. I think my recommendation is to look at some videos about the opening to better understand the theory behind it. For example, playing Nf6 instead of d5 is the way to start this opening in response to d4. When you see e4, you play the Pirc and open with d6, defending the e5 square so your knight can get to its happy place. Nelson’s got a couple lessons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=307RGgzL1DA. I also like this GothamChess video for a light overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK0cq6UBt1Y.
Your opponent played the stonewall with a plan of making a kingside attack, something that your opening makes pretty challenging. The other thing that the King’s Indian does, and I think the more important thing here, is give you the flexibility to prepare a big attack on the queen side if things aren’t working out on the kingside. You actually got pretty close to this idea when you started throwing your b/c pawns forward, winning a bunch of tempos and taking a lot of space. The big miss that I saw there was that you didn’t throw your a pawn forward to support them. You were very close to making a dangerous rook-supported passed pawn that likely could have won material. 28… a5 was an important opportunity to make a strong ingress on the a file. As a general rule, attack in the direction of your pawn chain.
Another thing I saw a few times was that you weren’t calculating the number of attackers/defenders of squares you were moving to. You lost a couple pawns to this. You also should consider how taking a piece for a trade affects opp’s position. 28… bxe5 allowed white to open an attacking line in the center, giving away the positional advantage you had. You also gave away a crazy strong bishop for a knight that didn’t have support to do very much. Your bishops were very difficult to attack from their position.
You also threw your knight into the middle a bit prematurely (15… Ne4), which was a mistake that white could have used to win material and damage your position. Granted, this was a tricky tactic to spot and your opponent missed it.
Overall, it looks like you played a pretty strong game. You only had a couple serious mistakes, and your opponent was able to use those to convert into a winning position.
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@willrey1112 thank you for your detailed reply . I was , however white in this game & played the Stonewall . My request was to how best ( better ) to play this opening against a King’s Indian type set up .
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@andrew-bennett-sufcgmail-com Oh! My mistake! I didn’t know what your username was. Honestly, I’m not sure how you could play the stonewall better here. I’ve been struggling with it as white, especially when they play a system opening like the KID. I’ve been playing the ponziani as white and absolutely loving it. Nelson has made a couple of great videos about it, and it’s really fun to play. I think I have a hard time with system openings because I tend to go on “autopilot” for the setup, then I have a hard time shifting my thinking to regular play. Maybe the real answer for me (and maybe you too?) is to practice keeping the right mindset as I play.
If you load the position into lichess and look at the database after the setup is done, you have a really good position where you are favored to win. I think 9… h3 would have been pretty devastating, as you would have been launching your pawns up the kingside supported by your rook, queen, and knight. I think you should put this one up for review in the third coaching call!EDIT: I’ve been experimenting more with same-side-castled pawn storms. It’s scary to do that since it’s opening up the King, but at my level it’s been very effective.
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