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Pierre W posted an update
Owen’s defense tips 800-1200. In the London setup, for example, I wonder about the validity of the move f4 to support the Knight on e4. Stockfish thinks it is a bad idea, which I would have ignored, but I just played the Owen defense against a strong player who completely demolished me after f4. Thoughts?
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I’m guessing there was a specific reason stockfish didn’t like it in your game. In general, there shouldn’t be anything wrong with it. If you can include the link to the game I’ll be able to give you a better answer.
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Thanks Nelson! https://www.chess.com/library/collections/owen-defense-2oMa6Bvgn
See move 11
Also, in my post, I meant f5 (not f4)
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I’m REALLY struggling with Owen’s vs players that play both center pawns out and contest the center without blundering the e4 pawn. I’m finding I get crowded down tight very quickly.
I can demolish slower playing players below say 1300, but having a lot of issues creating space above that
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Ryan, So far, I like the Owen defense, it is easy to learn and a response to all the white openings. I agree that it might be difficult against better players. Better players will think longer but might find a way to respond well. However, kudos to Nelson for presenting it.
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It’s one reason I like to try the openings against the advanced level bots , before trying them against people . If you can learn to try to ” counter ” the bots sneaky moves , sometimes to can seem more straightforward after. Just a thought 🤔
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It might be a good idea to try the bots. However remember the name of the course is “Breaking 1500”, not “Breaking 1800” or “Breaking 2000”. I don’t want to get stuck on the openings, my weakness is the middlegame, so even though the new openings are usefull, I hope that I will mostly benefit form the rest of the course. I will see at the end of the course and after some practice if the course was for me. I am optimistic. i feel that Nelson really want to help lower rated players, which is not the case for many teachers who base their courses on players rated 1600 to 2500.
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100% kudos for presenting it and the errors are entirely mine, no doubt. My comment was just what I’m struggling with.
Nelson made a comment about putting Be7 if white defends against early Bb4 and that seems to provide a playable line vs the specific issue I was having.1
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